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Topic: [isabelle] Non-terminating function domain qualifier


view this post on Zulip Email Gateway (Aug 18 2022 at 13:29):

From: Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com>
I'm trying to model a context-free grammar in Isabelle. AFAIK, a
generic function that parses input according to a CFG cannot be proved
to terminate. So I do not try to prove termination, which leaves me
with a domain qualifier on everything,

parse_len_dom (grammar, input) --> parse_len grammar, input = x

What I'm wondering is if it's possible, for a specific grammar and
input that I know will terminate, to prove "parse_len g, inp = n":
without the qualifier. Or is it required to prove termination in the
general case to ever get rid of that qualifier?

Chris Capel

view this post on Zulip Email Gateway (Aug 18 2022 at 13:30):

From: Alexander Krauss <krauss@in.tum.de>
forgot to cc my answer to the list

view this post on Zulip Email Gateway (Aug 18 2022 at 13:30):

From: Tjark Weber <webertj@in.tum.de>
I may be stating the obvious and/or missing your point, but the
membership problem for context-free languages is of course decidable
(see, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CYK_algorithm).

Regards,
Tjark

view this post on Zulip Email Gateway (Aug 18 2022 at 13:30):

From: Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com>
Out of curiosity, how is is accp defined in Wellfounded.thy? It
doesn't seem to be explicit. My best guess is that "inductive_set x"
defines "xp" as a predicate. (This does seem to be the case.) But this
behavior appears not to be documented in the Isar reference manual.

Chris Capel


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