Email Gateway (Aug 22 2022 at 13:49): Email Gateway (Aug 22 2022 at 13:49):From: Omar Jasim <oajasim1@sheffield.ac.uk>
Dear all,
Please I need to prove that for any nonnegative quadratic polynomial
equation the discriminant will be nonpositive. I found a proposition in a
text book bellow :
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=TPE0fXGnYtMC&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=if+f(x)+%3E0+then+b%5E2-4ac%3C0&source=bl&ots=eUAdjNvJpT&sig=KwJxcX_5RqIsCL4wJ3nrfvfZe9g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlxpjm2ZjNAhWMLsAKHX2vAs8Q6AEILzAE#v=onepage&q&f=false
but for this one, the equality hold iff x=-b/2*a and I don't want to put
this as an assumption as I need this lemma in another work. the lemma I'm
trying is:
lemma
fixes a b c x :: real
assumes "a > 0"
and "⋀x. a*x^2 + b*x + c≥0 "
shows " discrim a b c ≤0"
I proved that for strictly positive equation as bellow:
lemma
fixes a b c x :: real
assumes "a > 0"
and "⋀x. (a*(x)^2 + b*x + c) >0 "
shows " discrim a b c ≤0"
using assms by (metis discriminant_pos_ex less_le not_less)
but for nonnegative equation (the first lemma) I couldn't and way. please
could any one help me in this because I spend alot of time trying to prove
it but unfortunately I failed.
Omar
Email Gateway (Aug 22 2022 at 13:49):From: Wenda Li <wl302@cam.ac.uk>
Dear Omar,
Here you are,
lemma
fixes a b c x :: real
assumes "a > 0"
and "⋀x. a*x^2 + b*x + c≥0 "
shows "discrim a b c ≤0"
proof -
have "∃x. a*x^2 + b*x + c<0 " when "discrim a b c > 0" "a>0"
proof -
let ?P="λx. a*x^2 + b*x +c"
have "?P (- b / (2a)) = (4a*c-b^2)/(4*a)" using ‹a>0›
apply (auto simp add:field_simps)
by algebra
also have "... <0"
using that unfolding discrim_def by (simp add: divide_neg_pos)
finally show ?thesis by blast
qed
then show ?thesis using assms
using not_less by blast
qed
Best,
Wenda
Email Gateway (Aug 22 2022 at 13:49):From: Omar Jasim <oajasim1@sheffield.ac.uk>
Dear Wenda,
now I see where I was stuck. Thank you very much for that, it's really
helpful.
Cheers.
Omar
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